faboo mama: Thoughts on the first Presidential debate
Doug Quance
· 1 year ago
Like most partisans, you believe your man won.
I viewed it as a draw - McCain didn't inflict any damage, and Obama didn't look unpresidential. I don't see the needle moving one way or another.
While Obama was claiming what he stood for, McCain spoke of the actions he had taken. No real slam on Obama... he just hasn't been around long enough to talk about what he has done - only what he wants to do.
And while McCain was pointing out what he had done, such as his co-sponsored bill to reform Fannie and Freddie, he failed to show how his leadership on those issues resulted in a benefit for the country... other than the surge in Iraq. Like Obama, to be for or against something without creating a coalition doesn't really help you.
So once again, I say I don't believe this has moved the needle much. Kinda like the conventions... I just see a tightening of the ranks, and not momentum to one side or the other.
Anika Malone
· 1 year ago
Well, as I mentioned in the post, partisans would say that their guy won and that doesn't matter. What mattered was undecideds and independents and the snap polls of both overwhelming said that Obama won.
In poking around the internet, I think one of the key decision makers was WAPOs fact checking blog. It mostly pointed out the lies of McCain and those people I saw who were undecided and independent who looked at that during the debate were turned off by McCain's constantly lying.
FARfetched
· 1 year ago
McCain would start talking and I kept thinking, "that sounds familiar." It wasn't until the last few minutes that I realized: he was trying to sound like Reagan. But he ended up coming across as Crabby Reagan, snapping "you don't understand" how many times? Then Obama would step up and show he *does* understand.
Obama really needed only to tie this one being an "away" game, and he did at least that. Neither side totally hosed up, both got their points across, but McCain is perceived as having the foreign policy chops and he should have had a clear win. He didn't.
I hope the other debates run like this, with both sides given enough time to *say* something instead of spew sound bites. Someone said the real winner was Jim Lehrer.
david drummond
· 1 year ago
This is unrelated to this item but I would like to discuss using one of your images on a book cover. Could you e-mail me please.
McCain looked like a flustered little kid at times. A big point goes to Obama when McCain said he'd cut spending on all but the military. Well then why was McCain for the largest bailout (robbery) in U.S. history? And why did McCain say that the economy was sound just a week earlier? Nope I think McCain lost bigtime on those two points. And after watching the Palin/Biden debate an audience of undecideds on CNN were all planning to vote for Obama. This tells me that both Palin and McCain are way out of touch with what's going on in this country. They're stuck with parroting talking points and ignoring the facts.
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I viewed it as a draw - McCain didn't inflict any damage, and Obama didn't look unpresidential. I don't see the needle moving one way or another.
While Obama was claiming what he stood for, McCain spoke of the actions he had taken. No real slam on Obama... he just hasn't been around long enough to talk about what he has done - only what he wants to do.
And while McCain was pointing out what he had done, such as his co-sponsored bill to reform Fannie and Freddie, he failed to show how his leadership on those issues resulted in a benefit for the country... other than the surge in Iraq. Like Obama, to be for or against something without creating a coalition doesn't really help you.
So once again, I say I don't believe this has moved the needle much. Kinda like the conventions... I just see a tightening of the ranks, and not momentum to one side or the other.
In poking around the internet, I think one of the key decision makers was WAPOs fact checking blog. It mostly pointed out the lies of McCain and those people I saw who were undecided and independent who looked at that during the debate were turned off by McCain's constantly lying.
Obama really needed only to tie this one being an "away" game, and he did at least that. Neither side totally hosed up, both got their points across, but McCain is perceived as having the foreign policy chops and he should have had a clear win. He didn't.
I hope the other debates run like this, with both sides given enough time to *say* something instead of spew sound bites. Someone said the real winner was Jim Lehrer.
david@salamanderhill.com
This tells me that both Palin and McCain are way out of touch with what's going on in this country. They're stuck with parroting talking points and ignoring the facts.